I have not yet received my refund or a new phone. I would NOT recommend purchasing anything from YT's Cell Phones also known as cellphoneforever on Ebay.
I purchased a phone from an Ebay seller named cellphoneforever. The item that I received was defective, and they asked me to just mail it via USPS First Class Mail. I returned the item to them via USPS Priority Mail, and it shows that the post office received the item.
I gave the seller the tracking number, and they then replied by asking me if I wanted a refund or an exchange for another phone. I asked them for another phone and did not receive it. I then filed a claim with PayPal and I still have not received a phone nor a refund.
It is obvious that the seller had no intention of giving me a refund, because they wanted me to just return the item via USPS First Class Mail. They also did not communicate with me via Ebay, because they obviously did not want Ebay or PayPal to see that they offered to give me a refund or another phone.
I have purchased a phone from them before, and it worked. I am assuming that if the phone works, you won't have a problem with YT's Cell Phones also known as cellphoneforever on Ebay. If on the other hand the phone does not work, it is a good idea to use USPS Priority Mail and to ask for a signature of receipt. This way you will be able to ask the credit card company to reverse the charges.
I usually do not immediately leave negative feedback regarding a seller on Ebay, because I give them the opportunity to resolve a problem. Unfortunately, if the problem is not resolved within 60 days I am unable to leave negative feedback. Lesson learned: Immediately leave negative feedback, and once it is resolved you will then be able to state the seller resolved the problem. It is a way in which the seller will have to resolve the problem.
The following is the information regarding the company that I would NOT recommend:
MABILI INT TRADING CO LTD
sowaytech.service@gmail.com
Seller's ID: ytshopping2008
Seller's ID: cellphoneforever
SOWAYTECH
Unit D & E, 2/F,
MERCANTILE IND.&WAREHOBULD,
16-24, TA CHUEN PING ST.,
KWAI CHUNG, HONGKONG
Tel: 00852 26199005
The following is the information regarding the company that I would NOT recommend:
MABILI INT TRADING CO LTD
sowaytech.service@gmail.com
Seller's ID: ytshopping2008
Seller's ID: cellphoneforever
SOWAYTECH
Unit D & E, 2/F,
MERCANTILE IND.&WAREHOBULD,
16-24, TA CHUEN PING ST.,
KWAI CHUNG, HONGKONG
Tel: 00852 26199005
I write reviews and surveys. Cellphoneforever is my first negative blog regarding a company on Ebay.
These guys are the biggest scam artists ever, i did the exact same thing. my cell phone would not work i sent it back they kept saying they would give me a refund to keep me happy and then after 45 days stopped responding and ripped me off and will never give my money back. For all of you looking at there items never buy from them again there products are fake and they are huge scammers! i am verrrry anggrryyy!!!!!
ReplyDeletehere is the companys email, one of them atleast, we should work together to get our money back. ytshopping@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteSame problem mate. Won't reply to my emails, still waiting for a refund.
ReplyDeleteAny idea of how we can get our money back, work together some how
ReplyDeleteyou shouldnt have bought items outside ebay. If you did buy it on ebay, if the seller doesnt reply your messages, you should escalate the case to costumers support and they will refund you the money.
ReplyDeleteUse an American Express card for purchase. you than can put it in dispute,if it doesn't work, and they will never get paid.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, I placed my order through eBay and eBay did not refund the money. I should have used my American Express card, because it's easier to dispute the charge with American Express than using eBay and PayPal's process. I'm just hoping that people read this blog before they purchase their item from YT's Cell Phones, cellphoneforever or ytshopping2008. I have learned my lesson. Whenever I return anything to anyone, I use proof of delivery with Domestic or International Return Receipt service.
ReplyDeleteTo get your money back, we all need to open a paypal dispute. If its past the time to open one, you can ring up and they will open it then auto close it. This leaves it on his record, then if a few people do it, they reopen all cases and try resolve it. I've already done it, just waiting for others to do the same now.
ReplyDeleteI have the same problem. I have bought one phone from them. It didn't work and I returned it back for another one. The other one was again with a defect and I requested refund. I send it to them back and still do not get refund for that!!!
ReplyDeleteHey guys, let's do anything to kick their asses so that they understand that it is punishable.
I purposely posted this blog so that people would NOT purchase items from these people! You would think that eBay would notice that there are numerous complaints about the seller stating that they never received the cell phone from the buyer. I'm going to check back with eBay to see if I can make a complaint AGAIN regarding a refund that I have NEVER received. They'll probably tell me that the complaints need to be made within a month.
ReplyDelete+1 guys.
ReplyDeleteThis CELLPHONEFOREVER is really scammer.
Bought item which was not original, sent it back in December 2011 and my post office reports proves that they have received he item. But they are still not refunding.
I will try Nelinski`s advice.
same to me!what I got was a fake cell phone and I sent it back and I'm just waitting for the refund.So sad!I should read this blog before buying this phone.
ReplyDeletethe same scenario has happened to make ,they send me a damaged phone and when I've emailed them they asked me to send the phone back to them in order to pay me the money back,I've paid $11.45 for shipping and i didnt get the money yet. my id is :ralmasharqa2009
ReplyDeleteIt is sad that eBay has allowed a seller like this to continue doing business on eBay. It is horrible the someone received a FAKE cell phone from them. That's HORRIBLE!
ReplyDeletecome on guys ... i got a refurbished phone from them for fair price, asked them for exchange and got a new one in about 10 days .. they also paid for the return shipping and even some refund for making problem
ReplyDeleteso i guess this doesnt happen all the time
Same here, after I sent back the phone I never heard from them again, total scam, I opening claim right now.
ReplyDeleteThe person that posted on February 21st lucked out. No matter what I did, I NEVER received my refund despite them saying they would give it to me.
ReplyDeletei have had the same problem no phone no money back what is the problem with this people
ReplyDeleteI opened a formal complaint to ebay, talked with a security guy and he said they would be investigating. If you guys want to add your voice, by all means do it, especially if you have the emails of these cowards saying they received the phone and will refund you before they see it's over 45 days, laugh it out and put you on ignore list. Don't forget you should have more than 90 days to call your bank or credit card company to chargeback the transaction.
ReplyDeleteI also opened a formal complaint. The person said that he was surprised that cellphoneforever is still a seller on ebay, since he has 64 negative feedbacks this month alone. I asked for a chargeback for my transaction, but since I used PayPal I did not receive a chargeback. PayPal took the seller's side. The seller ended up with the defective phone and my money! I can NOT believe they are rated as being Top Rated Sellers. Maybe if others made a FORMAL complaint, cellphoneforever will no longer be able to sell on ebay. Then again... they'll just sell using another name.
ReplyDeleteI received a defective phone as well.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was told to return it and a replacement will be sent, I did so. The replacement never showed up & now they do do reply to my emails or phone calls.
I've just finished speaking to customer service at ebay. They gave me the same run around.
I expressed, these people are obviously scammers, why would ebay allow them to stay active? The poor service rep had no reply; its not her fault & what can SHE do?
If a petition of some sort can be brought up against this & other scammers and get them removed, I'm all for it
I recieved a defective NOKIA N900 phone from them. so i contacted them thru ytshopping@gmail.com.. and they are now offering me a new phone or refund.. WHAT SHOULD I DO??
ReplyDeleteCAN THIS PHONE BE REPAIRED IN NOKIA SERVICE CENTER?? OR IS IT A PERMANENT DEFECTIVE PHONE??
I have the same issue, but with a Sony Ericsson phone. I am interested to know if you returned the phone and if so, did you receive a refund?
DeleteHello,
ReplyDeletePlease do not return the phone to them! They claim to issue a refund once they receive your item, but that is a lie! If anyone has any questions on how to proceed feel free to contact me via phone or text, 678.667.8826..
I also received a defective phone from them and have been asked to return for a refund...how should I proceed?
DeleteI too got a defective phone from cellphone forever on ebay.They sent me an address to send the phone to along with intructions which i followed 2011.I have not got a refund or phone from them.
ReplyDeleteHi there, could you please share the address they asked you to send it back to? I'm going to HK in sept. and hoping to get a refund on my faulty Motorola Atrix which is, now out of the 45 days of warranty!
DeleteCheers
Andy
Same thing happend also to me. I ordered an Htc Desire Z. They send me a desire Z with T mobile G2's keyboard and OS! The mobiles they sell are surely refurbished. Mine right now has a big problem with the internal antenna/receiver. It loses the signal all the time with the outcome of tremendous battery draining! It stays on for an average of 12 hours! They offered a refund but I declined and asked for the spare part... they said they don't have any!
DeleteIts a really good thing that i searched for them through google. I was planning on purchasing a cellphone from them as well, but after reading the blogs, i think i'll retract. They seem stable and a few people write of pleasant experiences with them. Thanks guys.
ReplyDeleteI will share mine experience too. I have bought HTC TYTN II but they sent me HTC TYTN. Then they told me that they can give me a refund or can resend TYTN II after I send them back this one. So I took the refund of 20bucks. Everything ok, but after 5months I managed to break phone.
ReplyDeleteThen I bought Motorola Dext mb220 ( they sent me Motorola Cliq mb200 , but they are same phones, just different version ). When I paid the money I found this blog.. But they sent me working phone. So I had it also for about 6months but now it also have some problems with screen ( I believe this is for all such motorolas ). Oh, after a few days of sending money I threatened them about this blog and other negative comments. But well, I think I've got good phone for that time.
However, now I wont try buying again from them, it seems too risky
Purchased a phone and the phone was defective. They told me to send it back and they would refund money. I gave them 3 weeks and after getting the runaround, I contacted Paypal. I received my refund from Paypal after a week. If you are having issues, don't wait! File claim immediately!
ReplyDeleteI'm happy that you were able to get a refund, but I could not get one from PayPal or eBay. I guess those sellers choose who they do or do not want to give a refund to.
ReplyDeleteI am in a similar situation! Purchased a Blackberry Storm 9500 which they claimed was brand new. This phone was clearly not, after a few emails back and forth through to the seller they explained their returns policy to me however the first thing I have done is open a dispute on paypal. I will not be sending this phone back until these bastards give me my money back first! I have 100% positive feedback and they have had 111 negative feedback just for this month alone! Why should eBay and paypal trust them over me? Why should I risk sending back an item for a refund when they clearly have a long history of not refunding people!
ReplyDeletehave you receive the refund? I have made this before with cina/hong kong seller.Just wait the item send and receive to us and immediately claim via paypal even you have receive the item(in case using without tracking number posting) because mostly the item will defect within 2-5 months.So if it can stay out from that month,resend back their money or if you think they did not deserve to get it,keep your money with the item.Maybe this like cheating but they must know we also have right as customer.
DeleteYesterday i bought around 300 dollars of phones.
ReplyDeleteI thought i had The best deal for the phones.After googling the receiver for the money i found out that The Company Buys Broken PHONES and REFURBISH them And put AFTER MARKET PARTS SUCH As FAKE Batteries.SOme people i read in Forums HAD experienced THe phone heating up and Shutting off.I emailed them 20 times until they answered but they still didnt want to refund.But after CAlling Ebay and Paypal for claims And i emailed them that i have called them they got scared and refunded me the money.
DONT BUY FROM THEMM!!!!
Easy handle with the seller like this.I have tried it before.Do what I'm saying.I have made this before with cina/hong kong seller.Just wait the item send and receive to us and immediately claim via paypal even you have receive the item(in case using without tracking number posting) because mostly the item will defect within 2-5 months.So if it can stay out from that month,resend back their money or if you think they did not deserve to get it,keep your money with the item.Maybe this like cheating but they must know we also have right as customer.
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe that this company is getting away with it. I filed another complaint with eBay, but as usual... they tell me they're looking into it. I will ALWAYS return an item with proof of delivery, signature confirmation and insurance. They tell people to save money by not doing proof of deliver/signature confirmation/Priority Mail. Why? They do NOT want eBay or PayPal to see that they received the returned item. They just keep telling eBay or PayPal that they never received the item. The previous person was right. Order from this company, and then just say you never received the item if they mail the item without a tracking number. Then you'll break even. It's not stealing, because they owed you the refund/replacement.
ReplyDeleteMy buying nokia n900 story from cellphoneforever
ReplyDelete1 buying phone;
2 money transaction via Pay Pal to sellers account;
3 Receiving phone (unfortunately defected);
4 Sending complain to cellphoneforever via email;
5 Eventually decision was made to send phone back with tracking number;
6 No money refund and being totally ignored.
id: robertass2000
I'm was planning to do business with CELLPHONEFOREVER on ebay. but after reading this blog I'm confused.So much confused :/
ReplyDeleteDO NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY... THEY TRULY ARE SCAMMERS, I JUST REPORTED THEM TO EBAY FOR SELLING KNOCK-OFFS AS ORIGINALS
ReplyDeleteI could not agree more. I have ordered several items from this company in the past and when I placed a larger order with them for multiple phones they sent an EMPTY BOX and now WILL NOT RESPOND TO EMAILS! STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!!! They will send some products but when they think they can get away with it will scam
ReplyDeleteI was about to buy from them but now by reading all these horror stories I will stay away from them
ReplyDeleteIt's sad that I have been reporting them to eBay, but I see that they are still scamming people on eBay.
ReplyDeleteall ebay & paypal care about is their money
DeleteI purchased a Nokia N900 from these scam artists in April for my 16yo son who saved his butt off, the 1st phone i got was faulty so i sent it back & got a replacement, the 2nd phone was also faulty. I sent the phone back & they said they would refund me once they received the phone back. Well they reckon it took about 5 weeks to get back, aload of crap, i've sent them countless emails & they will not reply. I still have the emails where they promised me a refund so I have forwarded these onto ebay & paypal & they still wont help. They are just as bad as the seller. I am not giving up, I am reporting them to all the internet fraud sites. Paypal tell us to try & resolve the issue by corresponding, well its abit hard when they dont reply.
ReplyDeleteCELLPHONEFOREVER AKA SOWAYTECH AKA MABILI INT TRADING CO YTSHOPPING CO FRAUDS FRAUDS FRAUDS FRAUDS - I dont know how these people are still in business. I tried to contact the general manager (as suggested by PAYPAL) on gymt100@gmail.com and even the general manager will not reply. SCAMMERS, PUT THESE BASTARDS OUT OF BUSINESS
ReplyDeleteI have just lodged a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaints Centre (IC3), I urge you all to do the same. I wont be happy until these people are put out of business
ReplyDeletehave just bought two phones from these 'people or the so called co.' and to be sincere when i saw this blog i quickly lodged my complain to paypal and ebay and am pretty scared about this and now lets put this ass holes out of business and why is ebay not doing anything about this cause the phones in there ebay page are selling like hot cakes
ReplyDeletePlease post us the Internet Crime Complaints Centre (IC3) website, so that we all can do our little bit to get them out of business. They definitely sell old phones as new phones!!
ReplyDeletewww.ic3.gov/complaint/
ReplyDeletei've already put in my complaint, you have to give alot of details but its worth it if these sellers get closed down
ReplyDeleteCome on you guys, let's all go for it!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI tried to place my complaint, but unfortunately it does not seems if they accommodate Namibians! :-(
ReplyDeletePlease check ebay you guys, all of a sudden they only have phones on "buy now", nothing to bid on. So hopefully we are getting there ....
ReplyDeleteI just received a phone i purchased from them, basically i purchased a "Desire Z" but received a "G2" phone, which are "technically" the same with minor differences. Don't really care much if it's "brand new" as long as it's in a brand new condition and it was and working perfectly and even hacked and installed any DZ/G2 rom.
ReplyDeleteInstead of shipping back, i asked for 15$ money back for a next phone purchase and they agreed, so once i get the "HTC Nexus One" i will update you guys on how it arrived.
I only give feedback after all is ok, and i've not had a single problem getting money back from eBay or PayPal, so i don't know why you are having so much problems with that.
I'm still waiting for a refund which I was promised over a week ago and havent received it. I'll just keep putting bad comments up until I get my refund AS PROMISED by FAN YANG
ReplyDeleteI was lucky!! I made arrangements with them, sent back the used phone I received, (scratches all over the keypad, suppose to be a new phone) got tired of there promises about sending out a new phone tomorrow. I had that promise daily in my inbox for more than a week. So I dispute and paypal got me my money back!!
ReplyDeleteFinally, win. Fucking Chinese.
ReplyDeleteBuy a BB 9700.
3G was not working and the trackpad.
Only the phone is when to happen repaird, Exactly "refurbished".
Buy a BB 9000
BB PIN not work.
PIN not work? Only happen when to repot the phone is stolen or lost.
Buy a BB 9100
Charge Pin, desoldering.
A technician told me that was welded so many times that I was no longer repair.
Only happen, When the phone is repaird, Exactly "refurbished".
For the BB 9700, They PROMESE me $ 15 for the problem.
For the BB 9900, They Told Me return for refund.
For the BB 9100, They Told Me return for refund.
Only the BB 9100 return.
They fuck me my refunds for the BB 9700 ($ 15) and the BB 9000 ($ 190)
Total $ 205. -
The BB 9100, obviously came with the Orange logo when new phones are supposed to.
They promise, promise and give many excuses.
Why this? Gain time. After 45 days, no longer can claim anything on Ebay or Paypal.
And force you to leave positive feedback in return for solving the problem.
All refurbished phones that are sold!
Then you put in blacklist mails and never respond to you.
As I can do justice to these thieves and swindlers?
Allow time and got an extension of my credit card on behalf of a relative. (My mother in this case).
Create a new user on eBay, a new user in paypal, and perform a secondary purchase to these scammers.
Buy a Blackberry 9900 for $ 510. -
The same day I get home, start a paypal dispute, claiming that they had sent me an empty box.
After a long dispute via paypal with these scammers, since the only thing I do is take your hair, believe it or not are still pulling your leg, trying to gain time, elevate the dispute to paypal.
Paypal ruling in my favor, or for the purchaser and returned me my $ 510.
I have my BB 9900 and my $ 510. -
Finally justice was done, or rather, did justice. Paid in kind!
There is a phrase very popular here in Argentina that says:
Thief who steals from another thief, has 100 years of forgiveness.
Actually, I'm not proud of my acting, but it really deserved to pay for their scams, with more reason to buy one acts in good faith.
Please gentlemen, avoid buying from this ebay seller. If you already bought, or doubt, as soon as any problems arise, there will be a paypal dispute to be covered.
Remember that the policies of ebay and paypal, are in favor of buyers.
Good luck and have a good life.
any coments or need help, contact me to pablisho@live.com.ar
Cheers, Paul.
yay a win for the customer, finally, ebay should get rid of these sellers
ReplyDeleteRIP OFF BASTARDS, they have ripped me off too, not happy, they promise stuff but dont deliver.
ReplyDeleteTHROW THEM IN JAIL!!!!!
ReplyDeleteJust been advised by ebay that these scumbag sellers are under investigation, yay some good news, hopefully they'll get shut down.
ReplyDeleteHie guys i bought 2 cellphones from these guys last year in july and i never received my 2 blackberry phones im in south africa ,i was stupid i bought outside ebay because they said so.I have tried many times to get my refund but still these guys are playing around with me.They aint just crooks but devils.
ReplyDeleteput in a complaint with the internet crime complaints centre, google IC3, hopefully the more people that do it, they might take notice and take legal action against them
DeleteSame problem with me
ReplyDeleteSent phone and Won't reply to my emails, still waiting for a refund.
We should work together to get our money back
make sure you let ebay know, if you purchased it through them, the more complaints they have, the more they might take notice and do something about it
ReplyDeleteI've already put in my complaint,Thanks!
DeleteSame story with me... issued RMA, returned defective phone, never received replacement despite numerous email.
ReplyDeleteThe lesson is, NEVER use eBay to purchase anything outside the U.S. eBay's 45 day limit on disputes is not sufficient when shipping to/from Hong Kong.
write to ebay and Paypal!
Deleteebay should get rid of these sellers
Does anyone have an ebay email to contact them. Cannot find any. Only phone number to call.
ReplyDeleteThanks
customerhelp_es@ebay.com
DeleteGood Luck!
HI all, I can't find their phone number or address, can anyone help?
ReplyDeleteI'm going to Hong Kong in sept. and hoping to get a refund from them in person. Hope that works!
Cheers
These guys are such scam artists.. they claim to sell you brand new phones.. i've been keeping up with them for a week now.. thanks to this blog entry, I will no longer purchase anything from them.. it's funny though how so many people constantly continue to bid for their items.. can't do a simple google search?
ReplyDeleteAddress: SOWAYTECH Unit D & E, 2/F, MERCANTILE IND.&WAREHOBULD, 16-24, TA CHUEN PING ST., KWAI CHUNG, HONGKONG
ReplyDeleteTel:00852 26199005
Good Luck!
yes,I already buy this seller cellphone and have same problem,they always said have not recieved my returns,it is already 2 mouths,what we can do？Please help me
ReplyDeletewrite to ebay and Paypal!
Deletethey are liars, i had the same problem, keep on ebays back about them, dont give up, keep complaining, i did and finally got my refund
DeleteI bought a LG viewty phone from SOWAYTECH a last year. It had battery charging and gkash problems on arrival. Later when I checked the IMEI number of the phone, it was different from the IMEI printed on the sticker inside the phone. This clearly means they produce fake labels and stick them on refurbished/fake phones. Better stay away...
ReplyDeletei am amazed that ebay still let these people trade, what the hell??
ReplyDeleteI wish I had done a search for this ebay user before I decided to trust them to refund my money. They have taken so long to send out a replacement that ebay won't do anything. They send out garbage and then stop responding when it comes time for a refund. Here is where they requested I return the phone.
ReplyDeleteSowaytech
Unit D & E, 2/F,
MERCANTILE IND.&WAREHOBULD,
16-24, TA CHUEN PING ST.,
KWAI CHUNG,
HONGKONG
TEL: 00852 26199005
EMAIL: ytshopping@gmail.com
I have filed a complaint with my VISA card, and the IC3. Next will be a complaint to ebay and paypal (I doubt it will do much, since they weren't willing to help get my money back in the first place). I also included this blog in my IC3 complaint, with the hope they will see how many people are having issues with this ebay seller. If I do not make headway with eBay and Paypal, I will file a complaint with the BBB and consumer affairs for their lack of action, as it appears this has been happening for over a year now.
A bit further digging on the paypal side gives this information (http://mabili123.en.ec21.com/company_info.jsp), which was also passed onto the IC3. The ironic part is that even though their phones are listed as new, this page specifically says they are refurbished. That alone should be enough for eBay to drop them.
DeleteContact Information
Company: Mabili International Trading Company Limited
Address: Jintang Street Shenzhen City Guangdong 518000 China
Phone: 86 - 755 - 61339890
Fax: 86 - 755 - 61339887
Homepage: www.mabili-gsm.com
Contact: Laura Lee / Manager
One more address ... seems to have more detail than the one provided to Paypal.
DeleteShenzhen Mabili Trading Co., Ltd.
Contact person: Miss Susie
Telephone: 86-755-25835500
Fax: 86-755-82481969
Address: Guangdong, China RM D, Floor 11,Block North, Lijing Building, 48 Jingtang Street, Luohu District, Shenzhen
Zip: 518010
hello, thanks for sharing this information. I think i am also a victim of these rascals. i read the positive feedbacks on ebay and bought an item, three weeks already and no sign of the phone. i guess i was taken for a ride...I have a question, does ebay know who these rascals are and their operating mode? so why is this company still advertising on ebay? they should have been kicked our of ebay long back...
DeleteHi, I also have had issues with cellphoneforeve.
ReplyDeleteAfter 6 months of being given the run around and no satisfaction from either E Bay or Pay Pal I have created a Facebook page with their company name. I would love to have all your comments on this page as Facebook is a great form of Meida to get the message across to Companies like these.
The link to the page I created is
https://www.facebook.com/pages/CellphoneforeverSOWAYTECH-International-Trading-Company-Limited/448841918502037?ref=hl
If you dont want me to post on there please give me permission to copy and paste your comments.
I don't have a facebook account. So please do take my comments and post them there!!
Deletesince ebay and Paypal are refusing to do anything about it, If you are in the USA I recommend that you write your state attorney general with a complaint stating that ebay and paypal are knowingly allowing fraud and theft to occur using their services.
ReplyDeleteAlso, cellphoneforever has a habit of undervaluing their phones on their customs forms. They also told me to put phone parts on the return item to not have to pay as much on import tax. If you have written evidence of them asking you to do this... please contact me. I want to file a complaint with the US customs department and the USPS. I am sure they would want to know somebody is stealing their money.
I am going to be putting together stuff to send out to have these guys shut down. If you have ANYTHING at all that might be helpful (emails, etc)...
Please contact me: tony_v_cellphoneforever@nym.hush.com
go ahead!
ReplyDeletei order a phone from cellphoneforver an the phone was defected and all the above same return the phone i never have replacement or credit i dont recoment to purchase anything from this seller
ReplyDeletecELLPHONEFOREVER IS THE BIGGEST BASTARD EVER, THEY TRY TO BUY TIME WHEN YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR PHONE, AND WHEN IT'S ALREADY 45 DAYS, TOO LATE!!! PAYPAL AND EBAY ARE ENCOURAGING FRAUD BY ALLOWING FRAUDSTERS LIKE CELLPHONEFOREVER USE THEIR PORTALS TO RIP CUSTOMERS
ReplyDeletei just ordered a phone from there and now i read all of this what should i do. Should I cancel the order, please answer me.
ReplyDeleteWait for the phone. When it arrives, test it comprehensively. If it works ok, you can decide if it's worth the money. If not you have 2 week right of return. But, right now, contact EBAY customer support, tell them your concern and ask what rights you have. If you send the phone back, make sure to use a service with online tracking.
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ReplyDeleteFile a Cyber crime report against them with the Hong Kong Police!!
http://www.police.gov.hk/ppp_en/11_useful_info/contact.html#tcpu
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Sorry for the delayed response Joseph Katona... I would LOVE for you to post all of these comments on Facebook. The more people we could reach... The less people this company can RIP OFF! I started this blog, because I could not get money back from PayPal, eBay and my credit card company due to the amount of time that lapsed. I actually waited for cellphoneforever or ytshopping2008 to give me a refund. I won't wait for another company again. I'll just dispute the charges as soon as possible.
ReplyDeleteOh, and you startled me, and I expect that this artwork HTC desire z, I live in Russia and very concerned about their purchases
ReplyDeleteI will accomplish your goal, after receiving an order from him
ReplyDeleteI too have been scammed by Cellphoneforever received a faulty phone returned it this was also faulty advised by them to return it for a full refund. Returned it on the 15th Oct now unable to contact them. This company is nothing but SCUM preying on people using eBay thinking they are protected. There is no protection after 45 days.How are they allowed to trade? They scam people and no ethics at all. SHUT THEM DOWN
ReplyDeleteI send for refund - never receive new phone or even email.Claim on ebay for scam
ReplyDeleteHey, i didnt know how to post separate comment so im replying to this.
DeleteIve also been scammed by this seller. I received a defected phone, asked for a refund, returned the item after the refund was promised... it has now been almost 2 months and i havent received the phone back or a refund. furthermore, the seller is degenerate enough to continuously ignore all the emails i have sent him.
NOTE: EBAY AND PAYPAL WONT HELP, to be honest, they are just as messed up as the seller because this seller has been scamming people since 2010 according to the earliest reply to this thread.
i filed online complaints... no help.
IT STUNS ME TO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE LIKE THIS CONTINUE TO SELL ON THE INTERNET.
KEEP FIGHTING Y'ALL... ATLEAST UNTIL THIS person is brought down.
It's truly sad that they are still scamming people. It's too bad that there isn't a site that has ALL the eBay scammers so that people will stopped being ripped off. I always thought that eBay was a safe place to shop, but I guess that's if you file a complaint within a timely manner. Since the items come from Hong Kong, the allowable time frame makes it difficult to file a complaint. Now... I email the seller via eBay. If they don't respond, I just write NEGATIVE feedback. I also file a complaint. That usually resolves the problem. I no longer wait for the Hong Kong seller's response/refund/exchange. I let eBay, PayPal and my credit card company take over.
ReplyDeleteIt seems I will now not receive my phone from them. I have not received my phone since ordering from them more than 3 months ago. They keep telling me to wait for two more days every time I email them for the past two months.
ReplyDeleteI think somebody should start an actual Ebay Scammers site and have cellphonesforever as the first scammer on the list.
waitingforever
The point is, the cell phone they sell are not new at all. They are buying 2nd hand from all over the world, and replace a part to make it new.
ReplyDeleteThat's HORRIBLE!... They should advertise the phone as being refurbished, and NOT NEW!
DeleteThey stole 210$ from me. It has been more then 45 days from date of purchase. What can i do to get my money back? I will do anything to get my money back. I am not the one to steal from.
ReplyDeleteThey stole 215$ from me too. exactly the same system as described above (we will send you a new phone - never sent). I did a charge back via the CC company. Paypal will probably suspend my account but I dont give a shit. I want my money back. Ebay & Paypal suck
ReplyDeletehi
ReplyDeletei bought also a phone from them;got one that was only in a language i dont speak; returnd it to them and got one without a battery!!-they told me to buy one on the local market-i dont know if the phone without the battery even works-the best part was that neither ebay nor paypal help you when you are in trouble with these guys-just sorry i didnt see this blog earlyer-dont buy from them unless you want a full time occupation playing with them hide and seek!!by the way-all my contact with them was through ebays mail system-they dont monitor whats going on under their noses
When i face the same problem i told them,via enay message, that i won't send the phone back cause shipping its too expensive and that i will report them to ebay forum. I request to keep the phone and i send them 50$ and they sent me another better. When i received the second one, i opened a dispute to paypal,regarding the 50$, and told them that they sold me a refurbised instead of new with imitation accessories. I requested 40$ back and they gave me. So i had 2 phones and 40 back.
ReplyDeleteThe solution for me, is not negative. Play with them and you will earn.
Is there any way to get the money back? Can i sue them or anything?
ReplyDeleteThey refund 88$ to me and that is only one third.
ReplyDeleteProbably police of Hong Kong came in visit.
I will not stop untill i get more than they owe me.
I am taking lawyer now...
Hello, i experienced the same thing with theses people. i am now going through my bank and opening a dispute.I forwarded them all the emails that we exchanged, the info showing that it was delivered etc. The bank stated that they would inturn open a case with VISA who will contact cellphoneforever's bank. If he refuses to refund then they can take the decision to to ban him from VISA. I suggest that you all do the same as he will either have to refund or face a loss of revenue as he will no longer be able to trade
ReplyDeleteBought an Atrix 4G last May, wireless broke after several days, fake charger and the phone box was a total phony.
ReplyDeleteSent it back same like every one here described.
The regular "waiting for your..." play to stall you till the 45 day perioud is over and you can't complain till I got the phone back.
and got back a REFURBISHED USED phone with pictures of people in camera album... they didn't bother to reset the phone even...
Now after several months only my camera and the "original" battery just died.
I blame ebay for this - I just can't believe ebay scores them so high with this amount of negative feedback. If only I had google this seller and got to this post I'd never buy a chewing gum from them.
Will post a complaint to ebay and paypal as well as suggested here.
If people reading this didn't get it yet - DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS SELLER.
Just to update you guys. i opened a dispute with my bank who contacted VISA. I received a full refund as I was able to forward them all the emails that cellphone4NEVER and i exchanged showing them that i did return the defective item and that it was delivered. I never got another response from them afterwards. My bank handled it well and expeditiously as i made the complaint about three weeks ago although i bought the phone om 29th Dec 2012. The saw where I returned it in time under warranty and saw all of the interchanges. GO COMPLAIN
ReplyDeleteHad same issue! Initially being cheated by this jackass. When i approached him to ask him for refund for faulty phone he asked me to ship the product without any tracking number to reduce the shipping cost. When i smelled something fishy i Google about him i found this very useful blog!! So decided to file in Paypal. He tried in many ways to make me close the paypal claim. I never listen to his word so Paypal returned me full refund. But i had lost 70$ from my hand for return shipping and customs duty charges. i Posted really bad feedback about him for that he asked me what to do make me feel happy! Here comes my chance and asked him for good phone for free of cost initially and after lot of proposals at last he accepted to give 70$ for positive feedback in return! He transferred it through Paypal and Just changed to positive with bad comment.
ReplyDeleteP.S. DO NOT TRUST THIS JACKASS. JUST RAISE PAYPAL CLAIM AND ESCALATE IT. DO NOT LISTEN TO HIS WORDS. PLAY CLEVER guys IF BEING CHEATED ALREADY. IN FIRST PLACE AVOID BUYING ITEM FROM HIM!!! :)
this blog really helped me ....... or elese i would have been a victim..........thank you guys ...thanks a lot
ReplyDeleteYes, Cellphoneforever is a big time fraud, they sent me cell phone after 2 month and thats fake one. There numbers were fake too. I involved paypal and then they responded but took so long and now they say warrant expired. The cell phone can not read SIM and neither allow apps
ReplyDeleteWow , I bought a HTC sensation xe listed as brand new thru them, it was advertised with beats headphones,etc but came with generic copy rubbish , charger that don't work & phone seem like a copy , poor quality when i know HTC make good quality phones. plus the phone is slow and drops windows & have to reboot at times . I stated it all to them, imade agreement to send it back & pay a bit more for the better model last night all my conversations are thru eBay,They are requesting I pay the difference now . but after reading this , i don't trust them.
ReplyDeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteBought HTC Desire Z, phone was sold as new, 100% second-hand, battery failed, I bought new one, genuine card did NOT work with this shit, finally USB port failed. Firstly lost data connection with PC, then stopped charging phone. They promissed me replacement if I return it to HK. Sent it, now I'm stuck as for last three weeks they are neither sending me replacement nor refund.
What can I do. I am furious. Feel raped during day time robbery. This is against human dignity. Still they sell phones. People do not research before purchase, I was the same gallable ...
Help me please. What to do next?????
POST YOURS MESSAGE ON http://www.facebook.com/PayPalUSA & http://www.facebook.com/eBayGlobal
DeleteON THE TIME LINES OF THESE ORGANIZATION THEY WILL REPLY YOU IMMEDIATELY
INFORM THEM ABOUT FRAUD & SHOW THIS PAGE LINK THERE ALSO
I too was scammed by cellphonesforever EBAY GET RID OF THESE STEALERS FOREVER. How do you get your money back???????
ReplyDeletePOST YOURS MESSAGE ON http://www.facebook.com/PayPalUSA & http://www.facebook.com/eBayGlobal
ReplyDeleteON THE TIME LINES OF THESE ORGANIZATION THEY WILL REPLY YOU IMMEDIATELY
INFORM THEM ABOUT FRAUD & SHOW THIS PAGE LINK THERE ALSO
Tried both paypal and ebay global...no help getting either a replacement or refund...
DeleteI'm happy to see that this blog has saved others from purchasing an item(s) from CellPhoneForever or YT's Cell Phones or ytshopping2008. If the aforementioned company would offer to give me a refund if I stopped this blog, I would decline the offer. It's TOO LATE! I'd rather stop numerous people from shopping from them, than to receive my refund.
ReplyDeleteSame here. I lost $450 becuase of this fraud company.
ReplyDeleteI made the payment through my bank of america credit card to paypal. Is there any way to get the money back?
The worst thing is that eBay allows fellows like cellphoneforever to keep their mafiosi business to go on because at the end of the day all that matter is their percentage
ReplyDeleteOver the past3/4 years I have delt with cellphonesforever and had to return many phones 4 different people, but never had any problem with there service, your just unlucky I think or I'm lucky
ReplyDeleteRob, then give me my phone!
DeleteRob I think you probably work for them
ReplyDeleteI too believe that Rob must work for them! Cellphonesforever lies, cheats and steals. Rob is obvious telling a lie!
DeleteI am another one lost money to them. Ebay buyer protection didn't help.
ReplyDelete@SADHNA VERMAJune 19, 2013 at 9:28 PM, tried both of them, didn't help.
Ebay Global engaged with me for a while then stopped responding.
Cellphoneforever and ebay buyer protection have both failed me.
If cpf does not want to replace or refund just say so we can move on.
I'm another guy from Romania which buy more phones from them I buy 5-6 phones from them and after 2 weeks all the phones doesn't work. They are liars they write that the phones are new but they are not new . I send the phones back to them but they don't refund my money and they don't send me back other phones. They have right now another name on ebay " smartphone_wholesale ". Please do something . I will go with them in judge on CEDO.
ReplyDeleteATTENTION! They changed their name at Ebay to "unlocked_smartphones" - http://www.ebay.com/usr/unlocked_smartphones?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
ReplyDeleteIt BOGGLES my mind why EBAY & PAYPAL have NOT Banned & Suspended this Seller --> Who Fraudulently Lists REBURBISHED Phones as BRAND NEW - mellexstore88; /aka/ goldenfield*2014; /aka/ unlocked_nocontract; /aka/ topcall; /aka/ smartphone_wholesale; cellphoneforever; /aka/ ytshoppingatgmaildotcom; /aka/ sowaytechdotserviceatgmaildotcom; /aka/ unlocked_smartphones; /aka/ unlocked_breakfree; /aka/ unlocked_nottobetied
ReplyDeleteaka MABILI INT TRADING CO LTD aka SOWAYTECH Unit D & E, 2/F, MERCANTILE INDUSTRIAL & WAREHOUSE BUILDING, 16-24, TA CHUEN PING ST., KWAI CHUNG, HONG KONG; aka HAPPY TOAST LIMITED; aka SOWAYTECH International Trading Company Limited; IDS Online Corp (S23) 909 S 336th St Suite #104, Federal Way, 98003, WA | PETER CHEUNG 59-71 WANG LUNG STREET, RM 5A TSUEN WAN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING TSUEN WAN HONG KONG HONG KONG
Abt 4 years after this thread began, I am the latest scammed, where is Ebay and paypals accountability? Do they want their services/forum to be known as the wild west??
ReplyDeleteWhat about a class action suit, what would that entail?
I purchased a phone from ebay seller unlocked_nottobetied in July. It is now November and I have sent and returned 4 phones, all with one kind of defect or another. Of course, I am now outside the 45 day period for paypal, so I have no way of recovering my money. I notied the seller account 'will be away until december 31st' so I figure the account has been closed and a new one opened.
ReplyDeleteCellPhone Forever is STILL hawking their NEW (in reality they are Refurbished phones) Unlocked CellPhones on EBAY. They are now (as of 9-18-2016) operating on EBAY under: angel-market
ReplyDeleteangel-market
User ID angel-market
(Feedback score 13071)
Positive Feedback (last 12 months): 98.3%
[How is Feedback percentage calculated?]
Member since: Jun-06-09 in China
So Buyer BEWARE the New Unlocked Cellphones on eBay are probably from this UnScruplous Seller - MABILI INT TRADING CO LTD aka SOWAYTECH aka HAPPY TOAST LIMITED.